tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post6303686036644295637..comments2023-12-27T11:23:38.346-05:00Comments on Vanguard Church - Bob Robinson: The Church, Parents, and Training Children in the FaithBob Robinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08576734261775426385noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-1392884713628494922009-12-09T08:29:11.642-05:002009-12-09T08:29:11.642-05:00I agree Kendra. Streamlining is very important. ...I agree Kendra. Streamlining is very important. We don't use a curriculum at all because I think many of them have become so complicated. If we're going to partner with the parents it's got to be simple.Pam Heatleyhttp://steelspinedsoul.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-27136901816947977662009-12-01T16:36:00.788-05:002009-12-01T16:36:00.788-05:00Kendra,
Nicely said -- in which direction is the p...Kendra,<br />Nicely said -- in which direction is the partnering? <b>"When you look at our efforts, it really looks more like us asking them to partner with us."</b> There are ramifications for how we intentionally set up the paradigm and how we articulate that to the people in our church!Bob Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08576734261775426385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-1876488811943845492009-12-01T16:33:42.042-05:002009-12-01T16:33:42.042-05:00Henry,
Thanks so much for the great resources you ...Henry,<br />Thanks so much for the great resources you mention. Everybody should go check them out.Bob Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08576734261775426385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-66551932528569601042009-12-01T16:31:57.649-05:002009-12-01T16:31:57.649-05:00Menno Jones,
Thanks for the good words reminding u...Menno Jones,<br />Thanks for the good words reminding us of the importance the community of faith!Bob Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08576734261775426385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-76644280130475122912009-11-30T11:02:45.031-05:002009-11-30T11:02:45.031-05:00In the past year or so I have felt more and more c...In the past year or so I have felt more and more convicted about our children's ministry mission of "partnering with parents." When you look at our efforts, it really looks more like us asking them to partner with us. <br /><br />Now, we are working towards simplifying and streamlining the message we teach kids and students each week so that parents are able to get back in the driver's seat instead of just being along for the ride.Kendra Goldenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16462664275147914042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-36849638342655044522009-11-30T10:18:53.168-05:002009-11-30T10:18:53.168-05:00It's great to see more senior pastors talking ...It's great to see more senior pastors talking about stuff like this. Being in children's ministry, this is an ongoing conversation. Right now, it has reached critical mass with movements like Orange (http://www.theorangeconference.com), Faith at Home (a la Mark Holmen), Milestones (via Brian Haynes), and D6 (from Randall House).<br /><br />I think the biggest thing to remember is that we need to encourage parents and empower them rather than beating them over the head, which is what I've seen far too much of in church-world. I also think that while we do encourage parents, we need to remember that the command to pass on faith is not just to the parents but to the entire community. It takes a village. We are ALL responsible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-40558923341965307002009-11-28T09:57:58.095-05:002009-11-28T09:57:58.095-05:00I agree Bob. Parents first but it also takes a com...I agree Bob. Parents first but it also takes a community of faith that supports and encourages such growth. The command in Deut. was given to parents that were members of a community that had community beliefs and experiences that held them together. In other words, families were on the same page. Today, in most christian communities in the west, family units are not united through a communal hope BUT through this vague "I asked Jesus into my heart" experience. This means that in most cases what one family is teaching is being contradicted by what another family is teaching.Menno Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08337775547689552916noreply@blogger.com