tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post111350102366101845..comments2023-12-27T11:23:38.346-05:00Comments on Vanguard Church - Bob Robinson: The Postmodern Christian Story-telling Album of the YearBob Robinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08576734261775426385noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-1114303993519627502005-04-23T20:53:00.000-04:002005-04-23T20:53:00.000-04:00Hefe,I'm glad you GET IT !! ! !You said, "Im thril...Hefe,<BR/>I'm glad you <B>GET IT !! ! !</B><BR/><BR/>You said, <B>"Im thrilled to find someone interested in making music, not just recording songs."</B><BR/><BR/>Not that there is anything wrong with straight pop songs, but they come and go...and come and go...<BR/><BR/>Songs by people who can write catchy hooks and can play three chords on their guitars are nice, but I prefer, in the long run, something with more meat and musical significance...<BR/>...Something that you'll be listening to for years to come (and continually discover new things as you do!).Bob Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08576734261775426385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-1114303412214241162005-04-23T20:43:00.000-04:002005-04-23T20:43:00.000-04:00Jeremy,Wow.Great analysis.This is something worth ...Jeremy,<BR/>Wow.<BR/>Great analysis.<BR/>This is something worth repeating... <BR/>...again and again.Bob Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08576734261775426385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-1114275374406499562005-04-23T12:56:00.000-04:002005-04-23T12:56:00.000-04:00I agree with Hefe. Neal is no postmodernist. He pr...I agree with Hefe. Neal is no postmodernist. He probably doesn't think about epistemology or metaphysics much at all, but I'm sure he'd agree with the classic formulations of the gospel as propositional truth. He makes statements that seem like that to me. He happens to be good at putting it in narrative fashion, while Kerry Livgren, who makes similar music, states it in something closer to propositional fashion. The differences is mainly due to their temperament and personality. (Livgren plays on Morse's first explicitly Christian album, Testimony, by the way.)<BR/><BR/>To make narrative the be-all and end-all, as some of the emergent types seem to want to do, is to elevate one human tendency that some people are stronger in over another that different people are stronger in. In the end, you'll be fashioning a church in their own image, which is what they're supposed to be what they're avoiding.Jeremy Piercehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03441308872350317672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-1114263719757849762005-04-23T09:41:00.000-04:002005-04-23T09:41:00.000-04:00Bob, I was first introduced to you blog by a link ...Bob, I was first introduced to you blog by a link from Byron Harvey over at the Ticking Time Blob. I've been reading you with interest, especially your emergent church stuff - something I am wading through right now. I am a Worship/Youth Pastor and always looking for new music. So I blind bought Meal Morse on you recommendation. No disappointment there - what an incredible album! Im thrilled to find someone interested in making music, not just recording songs. IF this truly is an example of emergent storytelling, then I can get behind that - because it is not just stortelling dialogue, but it is a narrative that embodies the propositional truth that some emergents seem to balk at. But it shouldn't be one or the other, they don't need to be in tension. This album is a great harmony of the two, exlaining the uncompromisable truth in a relational way. Josh McDowell has been riding that horse lately, and I am quite enamored with what he says in his BELIEF MATTERS work. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, thanks for the heads up ona great album. IT will get regular rotation in my CD Player.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-1113958289114959132005-04-19T20:51:00.000-04:002005-04-19T20:51:00.000-04:00hey bob, i liked neal morse's "testimony" album. i...hey bob,<BR/> i liked neal morse's "testimony" album. i'm going to have to check out the "one" album!p.a.hileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08456462149614632046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-1113529938058823062005-04-14T21:52:00.000-04:002005-04-14T21:52:00.000-04:00Yes, I agree with the permeable walls analogy you ...Yes, I agree with the permeable walls analogy you have drawn, and I think, definitely, that emergent is very missional--that is what drives the whole emergent conversation.<BR/><BR/>But maybe emergent folks would say that the problem is that the windows and doorways that were created by the Reformation to let the gospel through to the people have, over time, morphed into impermeable walls, for they no longer work as they once did--mostly because the environment (our changing culture) has been so caustic to them, but also because the church has not tried to upgrade to windows and doors that would be up-to-date with the environment.<BR/><BR/>Emergent is all about re-defining the gospel in ways that are both biblical and speak to a postmodern age. Stan Grenz was the best in articulating this--with the postmodern turn, we must rearticulate the gospel, not just dress it up in new lingo.Bob Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08576734261775426385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-1113521107782330612005-04-14T19:25:00.000-04:002005-04-14T19:25:00.000-04:00Bob,Let me shift this a bit: the most significant ...Bob,<BR/>Let me shift this a bit: the most significant story I see being told by the Emergent folks (postmodern Christians) is that the boundaries between our culture and the Christian culture has to be broken down, something I call "permeable walls." I posted a blog about this on my blogsite, and wonder if you think this connects to the Emergent folks?<BR/><BR/>www.jesuscreed.blogspot.comScot McKnighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12464859313317428105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7110103.post-1113510453302219592005-04-14T16:27:00.000-04:002005-04-14T16:27:00.000-04:00Bob,I can't access my blog site today; find that w...Bob,<BR/>I can't access my blog site today; find that when I boot it up it comes up empty. <BR/>You know anything about this stuff?<BR/>ScotScot McKnighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12464859313317428105noreply@blogger.com